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I was just wondering about something from two perspectives. Do you have an ideal for spanking/spanking stories? ..... So what about you? What things are most important to the characters you like to see spanked most? Age, looks, behavior? Or does the boy not matter as much as something else?
Oh, dear gods, YES! I am 110% one picky S.O.B. -- as particular as the day is long! More to the point, one might even argue that the primary reason I started writing for MMSA was precisely to create stories that catered to my own personal, idiosyncratic standards and preferences...
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There's not a certain look that appeals to me most I love Hispanics, with their black hair, dark eyes, and rich skin tone, but I also like other ethnic groups...
The boys I personally write about tend to be Caucasian by default, just as a matter of unthinking habit, because I myself am also a white male. However, I frequently write about Latino/Hispanic boys, as well, and I would also love to see (and write) more stories about Middle Eastern and South Asian boys, as well! Also, here while back, I read this one story that I absolutely loved, that was set in China with a 13yo boy getting spanked...
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I prefer lean, but still not so skinny as to not have a rear.
When the boy in question does happen to be lean/fit, I do indeed want him to have a bit of "heft" to his bottom, regardless! Otherwise, what's the fun of a spanking, if there's no "butt meat" to whack? However, as some people here may already know, I have very strong and vocal appreciation of boys on the "heavier" end of the spectrum -- not so far as to be obese, but nonetheless an undeniable affinity for those who may be characterized as "overweight," "chubby," and my two personal favorites: "stocky" and "husky" Basically, enough "padding for the paddling" -- LOL!
In my own writing, in fact, I am hugely fond of specifically including combinations and juxtapositions of varying body types amongst my boy characters;
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What really makes a difference to me is size/age. <-snip-> What I can tell you is that I love a boy who's just over 5' - one who is approaching or in early adolescence. One whose body is a mystery, and one who's still adjusting to it and probably pretty shy. Also one who is growing, and probably proud of what he sees as his new maturity...
One of my favorite ages to write about is thirteen, specifically, as opposed to both preteens and ages 14-plus. Just because that particular age tends to conjure up, in my mind, certain mental images and associations that uniquely and powerfully capture my emotions and imagination! In light of that, I am actually working on a future MMSA submission that is more of an essay, musing at length about boys at age 13 -- though with a spank story incorporated into it, even if that part only occurred to me later in the writing process. But to elaborate further, since others expressed themselves in "list" form for this thread, then I guess I shall do the same...
Age Range: Strong preference for ages 11-13 because they've reached a certain level of mental/emotional maturity, along with lots of potential to be "precocious" in their inclinations, while still being so wonderfully youthful and boyish, at the same time! In particular, this part rings especially true for me...
For me age is not the determining factor in and of itself. What draws me to a story and to real life is the stage of development. My window is small. It is the stage between first sensing self awareness and being self aware. It happens in pre-puberty.
...though I diverge from my colleague here in one fundamental respect: My "range" extends a bit further out, to include beginning puberty, as well, when those initial changes have only just begun to make themselves known. Not too surprising, of course, considering my aforementioned affinity for age thirteen!
Domestic/Family: Almost always "Dad/son," though with "brothers" being a very significant second! In this one, I am actually quite picky in one specific way: Bio-fathers exclusively (i.e., exclusive of "step," adoptive, foster, etc.), with the same preferences for "brother" scenarios, even to the point of de-emphasizing "half brothers" -- which I fully and readily admit is not remotely sensible or rational, in all fairness! That said, the previous applies mostly to my writing, and I am not unwilling to give deviations a chance, if other buttons of mine are effectively pressed...
(Un)Dress: In general, my feelings on this are more or less in line with Z's preferences:
I prefer total nakedness during the spanking. I prefer the boy to be embarrassed about being made to be naked. I enjoy the vulnerability of being naked during a spanking. Anyone could possibly see the boy naked. If by chance someone does, then so much the better.
Or as I'm so fond of saying, though in a 100% "tongue-in-cheek" sentiment, "Bare-bottom only = Overdressed" However, there are the occasional variations that I undeniably find very appealing, such as...
Naked except for socks and shoes -- like, after a fully-**** spanking, make Junior put on his footwear, plus some sunblock, and then send him outside to do some yard work in the front yard! LOL
Specialty clothing designed to cover much of the body while strategically exposing private areas below the waist, such as wrestling singlet or "surf suit" with an open front and back! See links for visual references (warning: NSFW!):
The traditional ones: OTK, across Dad's lap, bent over some furniture, up against the wall, facedown and prone on a couch or bed, and "diaper position"
Some "unorthodox" options: Standing upright (facing forward + hands-on-head), suspended from ceiling by wrists, other use of restraints/bondage, "doggy-style" , and...all the other kinds of crazy nonsense that emerge from my demented imagination!
Implements: I tend to be open-minded to most implements, depending on my mood/headspace at the time, so it'd actually be shorter to list those I tend not to go for: Slipper or other shoe, switch (though I often like canes, go figure!), and ummmm...carpet beater! That said, some of my favorites:
The good, old-fashioned hand -- right on the boy's naughty bare bottom!
Paddle and hairbrush, for surface area
Belt, strap, and...tawse!
Punishment Targets: In terms of MMSA content tags, I'm a huge fan of the so-called "non-buttock" areas -- primarily:
Across the shoulders and upper back -- such as a flogging or back-belting, for example?
Right on those sensitive
Finally:
Setting: Inside a bedroom, if I want it to be a more close and intimate affair, but in the living room, in most cases, so the whole family can enjoy the show -- often including mothers and sisters, naturally -- or sometimes, the performance will even migrate outdoors, to make it more of a "community event," like a block party or something. Finally, if I want a really big audience, then various indoor and outdoor public settings are just what the doctor ordered!
Consent vs. Non-cons.: Depending on the story, as well as whatever mood and tone I am seeking to accomplish, it can range anywhere from "enthusiastically consensual" to "forcefully imposed,"
Spanker Motivation: Can be emphatically lecherous, strict and harsh, firm but loving, sadistic and mean-spirited, and various combinations of the previous
Spankee Demeanor: Fun and playful, humorous and good-natured, **** and flirtatious, warm and loving, and once again, various degrees of "sadistic."
Structure/Formality: For me, there's just about no such thing as too much protocol or procedure, and I have a massive kink/fetish for rituals and ceremonies, as well as power hierarchies and strictly-defined relationship structures!
Realism: Me, realistic? Contraire, mon freire! Remember exactly who you're talking to here...
Sexuality/Eroticism: Despite taking pride in my writing and overall "story-craft," ultimately my main goals is (and shall always be) to help the reader "get off," so to speak, regardless of gender. Therefore, at the very least, the story is almost always intended to be sexual and/or erotic "for the reader" themselves; whether that's also the case
Embarrassment/Humiliation: See everything Zyngaru said, of course, but it's also in my very pen-name itself: "Humbled Bare Boy" -- each word part of the unified whole, ya know?
Extremity: Anything I write is all but guaranteed to be at least a little bit "edgy," and I'm a huge fan of "pushing the envelope" and flouting all manner of culturally-ubiquitous taboos; so much so, in fact, that I almost take it as a point of pride if I can manage to leave a reader shocked and scandalized -- LOL!
It is the attitude and personality which grabs me. I like stories that are about the shy, innocent boy. He is curious and yet timid. He wants to experience the erotic part of life but is scared to do it. I love embarrassing situations. The more humiliated the character can become the greater I enjoy the story. Which means I have to have emotions in my story. I need to know what the boy is thinking and feeling. I need to know what the spanker is thinking and feeling.
Yes, Zyngaru, this is why you and I get along so very well together, am I right? All of the above elements, plus a whole lot more besides, uniting us even despite our obvious divergences! I am reminded of my longest story -- size @ 160K, written for the "Holidays 2021" collab -- and a major reason for that was my inability to resist going off on extended verbose tangents of prose, painstakingly exploring the psychological and emotional intricacies of various characters, especially the primary boy protagonist Brendan. Actually -- upon arriving at the story's, ummmm, climax -- I even spent an entire 1765 words JUST describing the "undressing process" itself, in most detail possible: Physical, visual, physiological, and certainly emotional! That 160K was, naturally, a ton of work to execute and finalize, but Pixote and Zyngaru's sweet and supportive praise made EVERY BIT of that worth my while...
Behavior. I can’t stand brats, whiny boys, bullies or arrogant boys. If the story is about them winning the day, I don’t want to read it. If the story is about them getting what’s coming to them and they repent, then I could enjoy the story.
The perfect boy personality, for me, is a juxtaposition of two ideals:
Innocent and Vulnerable: Shy, timid, naive, inexperienced, awkward, self-conscious, and very bashful/modest about his body, as well as other anatomical and carnal matters!
Curious and Precocious: All those unfamiliar new feelings -- confusing and a little scary, yet also tempting and exciting -- occasioned by the onset of boyhood puberty, yet foisted by nature and biology upon the mind and heart of a boy who might still be playing with action figures and watching Saturday morning cartoons! So, so very much fertile fantasy potential and creative fodder...
7. (w/ caveats) go to their rooms at bedtime, strip naked below the waist, and wait for me with their noses in a corner***
8. cooperate with their spankings and do what I tell them to do.
9. don't try to impress me with how brave they are. I know it hurts and they shouldn't pretend it doesn't.
10. cry freely when they feel like it but they don't beg me to stop.
11. want to be hugged after a spanking so they can feel that everything is okay again.
12. get over their spankings quickly without sulking or resentment.
These elements from the second half of Adric's list, items 7-12 from above, are the ones that most resonated with me; certainly I like the boy to be not simply cooperative, but even more than that, submissive and obedient in his behavior and demeanor alike -- adopting a persona of devotion and adoration, almost even subservient, towards his father -- with an element of surrender to the highly unequal power dynamic. (Not just fathers, but also older brothers and uncles, or whoever else is administering punishments and asserting authority, really!) My aesthetic philosophy for boy spankee characters, both physically and emotionally, is best stated thus: "I don't want to be 'impressed' by him!" Neither in terms of "size" nor on the level of bravado and/or stoicism; squirm and jerk and cry, as much as necessary, yet without rebellion or disobedience, and there can be warm and loving hugs, cuddles, comfort, etc. afterwards! (Plus another kind of "happy ending," if I should happen to see fit...)
As I've said here recently, i've started reading spanky-lit again, and I'm discovering that I don't like stories where the spanker or spankings seem mean spirited. <-snip-> I can't see anyway that could be considered anything but mean, and it was enough that I don't want to read anymore of his stories. Am I over reacting? How do you feel about that kind of story?
First of all, I think a key point is what Plagosus said regarding the "justification" and/or "reason" question: "An author may provide a reason for the punishment perhaps because he feels a reason is needed in a spanking story and then go on to describe a harsh spanking. The spanking may come over as mean-spirited if the reason is trivial and merited if the reason was serious." Jack, you and I have discussed this both in group chat and privately over email, but in general I take the YKINMK philosophy and believe that "it takes all kinds," in general. Are you "overreacting," you ask? My answer would be "NO", though I tend to believe that just about nobody is ever truly "over-reacting" to this or that; instead, they are simply "reacting," according to the stimulus and the feelings it brings up from within them. More humorously, I would say that how I personally feel tends to be a matter of how hot and arousing the story is, or to what extent does it make me want to operate my laptop with only one hand?!
That said, I prefer more realistic type stories. I don't mind a harsh spanking but it needs to be justified by the "crime" and be age appropriate. I hate mean spankers. If there is abuse or a mean/hateful spanker then I want a comeuppance or retribution in the story. A loving/caring spanker can make a harsh spanking easier to handle.
I think this is a major preferential and philosophical difference between you and myself? Especially since you have used the "suspending reality" phrase, with respect to some of my own stories, from your own "reviewer" perspective... ...so I was extra-flattered, and my heart warmed, when you shared kind words about the emotional aspects of some of my stories. I do believe you and I are quite different, most notably in these two ways:
I'm more inclined to priortize "hotness" over other such ideals, such as "realism" and "fairness." In my case, bear in mind, the "hotness" term is roughly synonymous with potential...
Although I have my preferences around emotions and overall tone, I can easily overlook injustice and mean-spiritedness, so long as it serves the purpose of content to indulge my baser instincts.
I am not too concerned about why a boy is spanked. In some of my stories no reason is given. The focus of my stories tends to be on "spankiness" and very often the situations I create are highly implausible but not impossible. I have now and again written about mean-spirited spankers, but the fact they are mean-spirited is made clear other than by hard how they spank or what for.
Needless to say, I tend to resonate with this outlook -- with respect to not only "spankiness," but also arousal and eroticism -- regardless of whether the "spirit" is mean or wholesome.
In the end, whatever we write, are we not all exploring our obsession with spanking?
I'm trying to explore my own interests and define what I like and what I don't like. I enjoy posting these things as threads, both because I honestly want to see what other people think, but also because my own thinking becomes more clear when I put it in writing.
Yeah, I agree, these are indeed fruitful and engaging discussions! Although, it's kind of ironic though, that when I shared that one story link to you and Z. -- as my idea of a "mean-spirited" story, that is -- you yourselves actually felt differently. On account of the boy's naughty behavior, specifically, so from what I recall, it appeared not to activate your "mean" and/or "unfair" sensors like it did for me(?) Whereas for both myself and another fellow author, she and I shared a perception of the parents as unloving and even somewhat sadistic; though I actually enjoyed that aspect, being somewhat sadomasochistic myself, haha!
We humans really are such peculiar folk, aren't we?
"Thanks, dad," son answered with at least a hint of attitude. "I just want you to remember that you can tell me anything." "Will you give me some space!?!" "I"m not going to put up with that kind of disrespect. Spanking time!"
Okay, in response to the above, I have just three things to say:
I'm sorry but just, "What?
No, but seriously -- "What?!"
Heaven's sake but, "What the almighty blazing ****, Jesus H. Christ?!?!"
...you get the idea, I presume? In the case of the above snippet, my immediate reaction is incredulity and indignation, wondering to myself "In what universe and timeline, out of infinite timelines in a multiverse, does that even 0.0000001% qualify as 'disrespect'?!?!"
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Now, kids can be kind of thick to adults, because they do tend to live in the now, even when they're teenagers. However, I know I'd lose my temper if someone kept pushing like that after I'd already answered them. If you're a parent, sometimes you have to accept that "I'm fine," realy means, "I'm trying to process a situation and just don't want to talk about it right now," or maybe just "I'm a moody bastard, check back with me after puberty." <-snip-> ...a good parent should say something like "Okay, I'll leave you alone, but..."
There is a formal/clinical term for this kind of behavior by the provocateur: "Reactive Abuse" -- defined as "Reactive abuse occurs when someone who has been abused begins to defend themselves by responding to abuse with physical and/or verbal attacks," per this introductory/explanatory article: Understanding Reactive Abuse: Signs and Solutions Additionally, this YouTube video discusses the phenomenon with a specific focus on narcissistic abuse, in particular:
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Of course, parents are people as well, so it's understandable if they're having a bad day or if the kid's had a trend of misbehavior, but it still lowers my opinion of them a bit.
Clearly you are more understanding and magnanimous than I am because, to put it mildly, it lowers MY opinion of them a LOT -- by orders of magnitude, in fact! But that's admittedly due almost entirely to my own biography, psyche, and idiosyncratic personality traits; if there were a Guinness World Record for "Most Unforgiving," then I would be a shoe-in for the No. 1 position. Perhaps it's for the best, in all honestly, that others out there have bigger hearts than I...?
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but since I have and you're here, what do you think about situations like this - both in stories and how to handle them?
I would say it depends on various factors specific to the story in question: Genre (e.g. WHASS vs. wank), the characters and relationships, the desired emotional tone and reader reaction, any particular moral/ethical "lesson" or point that the author has in mind. In my case, just because I object to "attitude penalization" in real-life, does not whatsoever preclude me choosing to include it as part of a fictional spanky story -- for example to establish an element/theme of strictness, structures, and power dynamics for "hotness" purposes
I know I was spanked as a kid--the only spankings whose details I remember are ones I felt were unfair--for "attitude" or because they were in a bad mood about something else.
**** hell, man, I'm so very sorry you had to go through any of that! I can personally relate and empathize so very deeply, being raised as a 90s kid in the Bible Belt, where there was this general underlying sense that obedience was necessary, but not sufficient -- you know, because you also gotta act like you're happy about it! Grrrr....
Glad to see people noticing Caleb King, largely because he's been one of my most supportive and encouraging readers, for the past several years, so now that he's also an author -- I'm just so, so glad to see him getting recognition and attention!
My second challenge/collab series to launch at MMSA! Basic info follows below...
Alt. Title:The "Brotherly" Challenge .
Central Idea:"Sometimes your brother can pester you, embarrass you and even make your life difficult, but deep down, you know that your relationship with your brother is something that you hold dearly to your heart. While you don’t need a day to tell your brother how much you love him and feel blessed to have him in your life, expressing your heart out on National Brother’s Day is bound to make him feel special." (Source:https://parenting.firstcry.com/articles/magazine-national-brothers-day-2021-history-celebration-activities/) .
Of course, the first actual "proper story" has yet to go live, but I know of at least one that's already in the works! If I proffer my own submission, one can anticipate an eminently scandalous cornucopia of the "taboo" and "perverse" -- but so everyone knows: You can just as easily write a full-fledged 110% WHASS story, one that would be equally relevant and "on-topic" So, if interested, then let thy muse take flight...
(For more information, you may consult the first entry in the series, that being the official "Challenge Introduction" I wrote for it! )
On another site I use, I met a fellow author who write some pretty damn awesome stories that have greatly excited me, turned me on, and given me considerable enjoyment! Moreover, this man has also become a regular and highly supportive reading of my MMSA stories, as well, so I have come to appreciate and care for him a good amount! As luck would have it, a portion of his stories would also be on-topic for MMSA, so a few times, I have attempted to warmly and gently encourage him to try posting one of his there, too... <-snip-> ...sadly, even though his writing is genuinely enjoyable and pretty d--ned good, but he...does not share in my esteem of his work... ...and indeed, his primary stated reason for not giving story submission a try is that he is convinced his writings is of insufficient quality to be "worthy" -- i.e., "not good enough," as preposterous as I find it
my hopes and efforts of persuasion did eventually pay off, the results of which you can see in my recent "story recommendation" over here in a different thread. <-snip-> ...sure enough, there it was, and even with a shiny golden "site recommendation" shield, too!
Present-Day Status: With his 15th story, going live on 2024/03/29 a couple days ago, there is now an official yellow shield ("highly recommended author!") beside his pen-name! In other words, precisely the exact outcome I expected for him, and well-deserved for such a talented and enjoyable author! As they say, "All's well that ends well!"
"A year ago, shortly after Eton turned thirteen, his parents informed him that they planned on getting a divorce. His parents, David and Joyce, no longer loved each other.<snip>His mother demanded possession of their house as part of the divorce settlement. David gave her all she demanded, including agreeing to relocate to another city. Everything was on the table as long as he was granted full custody of Eton. Unlike his materialistic wife, that was all he wanted: Nothing in the world was more important to David than Eton."
Sadly, as of the recent year, the divorce was not the only difficult and painful experience the boy had to endure, hence the titular "massage therapy" which is conducted with the son completely "au naturale" and over his full body, not to mention with warm oil! As an aid to father/son bonding and emotional healing, intense and intimate, subtly erotic but ultimately non-sexual -- no lines or boundaries violated, all nurturing and wholesome, leading to a very sweet and heartwarming result for the tone and relationships... ...but seriously, people, you simply cannot FATHOM how truly cute, endearing, and lovable this boy truly is! Like, he's just so adorable I almost can't stand it...
In this case, the author is actually not associated with MMSA itself, but rather through a different story archive (i.e., the FNA, formerly hosted on ASSTR) where he found some of my writings that were, well, a bit too much for the content guidelines at the former, haha! As luck would have it, Mogg and I actually have uncannily overlapping mutual likes and preferences, leading to an ongoing correspondence which has been most pleasing to me. With respect to this story, though, it all boils down to his brief italicized blurb prior to the opening:
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This story is largely inspired by the writings of HumbledBareBoy. Any similarity between his stories and the following is intentional.
Carol and I had been dating for just over six months. Maybe it was because her family thought we were getting serious that her sister invited us both to attend her son’s birthday party to be held the following week. I should explain that Carol was the youngest of four sisters and the only one as yet unmarried. Carol and I had a chaste relationship, something that she insisted on observing right from the outset. I found celibacy difficult to cope with at first, but I remained loyal to Carol’s wishes and this strengthened our relationship. Carol and I were both in our mid-twenties and I wondered why we were being invited to the birthday party of a thirteen year old boy, her nephew, Joshua...
Also very likeable on a personality level! Very gracious and responsive to feedback, and I've found open-minded to discourse and dialogue, so I figure he's pretty good at fostering positive bonds with appreciative readers
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I am 110% one picky S.O.B. -- as particular as the day is long! 
More to the point, one might even argue that the primary reason I started writing for MMSA was precisely to create stories that catered to my own personal, idiosyncratic standards and preferences...
However, as some people here may already know, I have very strong and vocal appreciation of boys on the "heavier" end of the spectrum -- not so far as to be obese, but nonetheless an undeniable affinity for those who may be characterized as "overweight," "chubby," and my two personal favorites: "stocky" and "husky" 
Basically, enough "padding for the paddling" -- 
In light of that, I am actually working on a future MMSA submission that is more of an essay, musing at length about boys at age 13 -- though with a spank story 
In particular, this part rings especially true for me...
However, there are the occasional variations that I undeniably find very appealing, such as...
, and...all the other kinds of crazy nonsense that emerge from my demented imagination! 
That said, some of my favorites:
Jack, you and I have discussed this both in group chat and privately over email, but in general I take the YKINMK philosophy and believe that "it takes all kinds," in general. Are you "overreacting," you ask? My answer would be 
potential... 
Although, it's kind of ironic though, that when I shared that one story link to you and Z. -- as my idea of a "mean-spirited" story, that is -- you yourselves actually felt differently. On account of the boy's naughty behavior, specifically, so from what I recall, it appeared not to activate your "mean" and/or "unfair" sensors like it did for me(?) Whereas for both myself and another fellow author, she and I shared a perception of the parents as 
I can personally relate and empathize so very deeply, being raised as a 90s kid in the Bible Belt, where there was this general underlying sense that obedience was necessary, but not sufficient -- you know, because you also gotta act like you're happy about it! Grrrr....
So, if interested, then let thy muse take flight...
...and indeed, his primary stated reason for not giving story submission a try is that he is convinced his writings is of insufficient quality to be "worthy" -- i.e., "not good enough," as preposterous as I find it
Like, he's just 
As luck would have it, Mogg and I actually have uncannily overlapping mutual likes and preferences, leading to an ongoing correspondence which has been most pleasing to me. With respect to this story, though, it all boils down to his brief italicized blurb prior to the opening: