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Posted by: Zyngaru
« on: May 09, 2025, 10:48:01 pm »

Quote from: David M. Katz on May 09, 2025, 07:04:55 pm
Z, even if no support groups or programs exist for vaping, a professional therapist should be able to help.  I am not sure of your GN's financial or insurance situation but most are covered by insurance including state Medicaid programs.

Maybe being grounded by the court (essentially that is what has happened) will wake him up.

If possible, find a professional.  The kid needs help not criminal penalties.

He has been, or should I say he was supposed to go to therapy many different times with many different therapists.  We have two separate organizations in town plus the school counselors.  None have worked because frankly, he likes what he is doing and the lifestyle he is living.  That is what is so painful.  He doesn't want to change because he likes it the way it is.

I agree he needs help, but when he doesn't want and will not accept help, what is there to do?  What I am concerned about is that the court/legal apparatus is waiting until he turns 16 and then they are going to send him away as an adult.
Posted by: Zyngaru
« on: May 09, 2025, 10:35:35 pm »

Quote from: Jack on May 09, 2025, 02:22:19 pm

What people forget, however, is that vaping can also be done with THC products, which are considered illegal drugs.  In Texas, possession of THC can be considered a felony.

I keep saying 'in Texas' because I don't know what Indiana law says.

THC is his vape of choice.  But he will stick anything in that thing that will get him high.  He steals it.  He steals money to get it.  He stays high (If that is the right word for being on THC) as much as he can.  Even at school.  So, he has been doing this for 4/5 years now.  Been in trouble with the school/law and home so many times we have lost count.  When I say repeat offender, I mean forever offender.  But yes, multiple times he could have been charged with felonies.  So far, he has stayed out of jail.  Not sure how.
Posted by: David M. Katz
« on: May 09, 2025, 07:04:55 pm »

Z, even if no support groups or programs exist for vaping, a professional therapist should be able to help.  I am not sure of your GN's financial or insurance situation but most are covered by insurance including state Medicaid programs.

Maybe being grounded by the court (essentially that is what has happened) will wake him up.

If possible, find a professional.  The kid needs help not criminal penalties.
Posted by: Jack
« on: May 09, 2025, 02:22:19 pm »

In Texas, underage vaping is only a class C misdemeanor and carries a $100 fine, though I'm not sure how they deal with repeat offenders.  However, the Texas legislature, in their infinite wisdom, decided to require any public school student caught vaping to be transferred to a DAEP campus.

What people forget, however, is that vaping can also be done with THC products, which are considered illegal drugs.  In Texas, possession of THC can be considered a felony.

I keep saying 'in Texas' because I don't know what Indiana law says.
Posted by: Zyngaru
« on: May 08, 2025, 09:47:39 pm »

Quote from: squarecutter on May 08, 2025, 03:38:08 pm
vapes arent actually illegal are they? They wouldn't be sending a Schoolkid Down for this would they?

Sale/distribution of electronic cigarettes to persons under age 21 prohibited.
Ind. Code §§ 35-46-1-10(b), 35-46-1-10.2(b) (2024)

Sale of e-liquids to persons under age 21 prohibited.
Ind. Code §§ 7.1-7-5.5-1, 7.1-7-6-5, 7.1-7-6-2.1, 35-46-1-10(b), 35-46-1-10.2(b) (2024)

Possession/purchase of an electronic cigarette or e-liquid by persons under age 21 prohibited.
Ind. Code § 35-46-1-10.5(a) (2024)

My 15-year-old Grand Nephew is currently under house arrest with an ankle bracelet.  He is a repeat offender.  I did expect the judge to go harder on him.
Posted by: squarecutter
« on: May 08, 2025, 03:38:08 pm »

vapes arent actually illegal are they? They wouldn't be sending a Schoolkid Down for this would they?
Posted by: Zyngaru
« on: April 09, 2025, 09:18:50 am »

Sidenote:  I currently have a grand-nephew in the clutches of vaping.  He has been doing it for years starting in middle school and nothing seems to work getting him off it. He vaped in school.  He has a court date approaching.  My question is vaping addicting like cigarettes and if so, is there rehab for vaping?  Not that this information will help my grand-nephew, his parents won't take the lead on anything, to help their son. It's going to take jail time for him. And that may only work if he can't get hold of vapes in jail. But for information purposes, I would like to know if anyone has family experience with this.  Especially if they know of something that does work getting kids off vapes.

I moved this to a side discussion so as not to take away from the BOTD that it came from.