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Posted by: Jack
« on: January 26, 2019, 05:30:21 pm »

Quote from: db105 on January 26, 2019, 10:44:21 am
Is this the first time you have spanked Dash?

It kind of depends on how you define spanking.  I try to be patient with Dash.  I have known one or two kids like him before, so I know to allow for his disability, but I also know that he needs to be held to standards.  I have given him corner time, I've swatted his butt, and there are a couple of times that I've given him more than swats to the point of pants down or bare and over my lap, but still not what I'd call a real spanking.  I think this is the first time I would say that I've really spanked him.

I should also point out, however, that they don't live close to here, so Dash isn't here nearly as often as other boys, or nearly as long.  Since his mom gets off at 5pm, he sometimes comes home with Van or Liam after school, then is picked up about 5:15 - so not even a full 90 minutes by the time they get here.
Posted by: db105
« on: January 26, 2019, 10:44:21 am »

Is this the first time you have spanked Dash?
Posted by: Jack
« on: January 26, 2019, 10:24:56 am »

Quote from: Zyngaru on January 26, 2019, 09:53:08 am
Since this was a non-school option, does that mean there wasn't a witness?  How about it going on his disciplinary record?  I am assuming neither of these since you did say, non-school option.

Since BCA is a private school, they have an option most public schools don't really have - 'CP handled by parent'. In this case (like with the Tidwell and sometimes the Stouse boys) I am listed as handled by parental request by Jack Wells.

However, you are right that there was no witness.
Posted by: Zyngaru
« on: January 26, 2019, 09:53:08 am »

It was good that you were there for Dash.  You and Dash have a relationship.  I doubt there would have been the cuddle afterward had it been the Principal who had spanked him.

Since this was a non-school option, does that mean there wasn't a witness?  How about it going on his disciplinary record?  I am assuming neither of these since you did say, non-school option.
Posted by: Jack
« on: January 26, 2019, 08:24:21 am »

Interesting that Square should chose this evening to comment on Andy.  I spanked Dash yesterday afternoon.

Dash was being brought into the office as I was getting ready to leave.  He'd been late to class, and I mean VERY late - 15 minutes in a 40 minute class. 

When any but the youngest kids are through with lunch, they normally have a couple of choices of what they can do.  They can stay in the cafeteria, go to the library or an open area in front of the office, or they can go outside to a designated area if the weather allows.

Dash claims that what happened is that he went a bit outside that designated area, didn't hear the bell ring, and just didn't realize for a while.  That sounds unbelievable.  Mr. Sanders and I believe it much more likely he'd sneaked off campus, but we didn't have any proof.  On the other hand, this wasn't the first time Dash has had an incident like this, and he had admitted to leaving the designated area no matter where he'd gone.  While some ADHD kids can hyperfocus where things like this happen - and we know that Dash can do it - if he hadn't gone out of bounds, someone else would have reminded him or he would have noticed the other kids leaving, so he put himself in this situation.

Andy was called, and he did want a bit more than the school would normally issue in this situation, so, with Mr. Sanders permission and my agreement, he gave Dash the choice of waiting until after school or letting me handle it. 

Mr. Sanders had someone awaiting him, so Dash and I went to the conference room.  Spanking Dash is something of a balance.  He's a pretty tough kid, and you have to get his attention, but he's also very small, despite the fact that he's nearly 13 now.

He knew why he was in trouble, and he knows how I spank.  I let him bare himself, put him over my lap, and gave him a spanking pretty much like Jake would get, using one of the paddles that would normally be used to swat the younger kids - oval and about the size of a paddleball paddle, but sturdier than most of them you find.

Dash had a good hard cry, though he didn't quite lose complete control of himself. 

One thing I will say is that, by going with the non-school option, Dash and I had a moment to cuddle while he recovered and before he had to go back to class.
Posted by: squarecutter
« on: January 26, 2019, 06:24:42 am »

Wikied it. Half right I guess even I still dont get the joke exactly !
Posted by: afinch
« on: January 25, 2019, 11:23:04 pm »

https://www.ibdb.com/broadway-production/bloody-bloody-andrew-jackson-488478

It was a failed musical by the late, sadly missed Michael Friedman, who died at 41 from complications of HIV/AIDS.  Mr. Friedman was a great composer and a wonderful man.  Bloody, Bloody Andrew Jackson was not a great work IMO.
Posted by: squarecutter
« on: January 25, 2019, 07:31:37 pm »

Quote from: Jack on June 11, 2018, 04:19:21 am
I was going to title this thread Bloody, Bloody Andy Jackson, but I thought only Kier - and maybe Leti or Wil if she ever shows up again - would get the joke.


Was it to do with President Andrew Jacksons being impeached or am I way off beam
Posted by: jackson
« on: October 14, 2018, 12:58:11 pm »




"Carter received a pretty standard lecture/explanation for why he was going to be paddled, but I think it was more a teacher explaining than a parent lecturing."


Always interested in what was said/reactions in these circumstances.
How was Carter told what his punishment was going to be, what did Andy say to him?
What was Carter's reaction to being told his punishment, if any?
Posted by: Jack
« on: October 14, 2018, 12:05:27 pm »

I hadn't thought of it that way, Adric, but I guess there are some parallels. 

I guess DB has a point, but it probably depends on how the boy sees it.  Even though we're both big brothers, Andy is the main disciplinarian for his little brothers, and I had been handling a lot of the day to day discipline with my own.
Posted by: Adric
« on: October 14, 2018, 09:15:51 am »

Quote from: Jack on October 12, 2018, 04:39:39 pm
Mr. Sanders was out today, and Mr. P had an upcoming meeting, so Carter was referred to his big brother.  Since the principals weren't available, he came to me during homeroom, and I got to be the official witness to Carter receive 8 swats bare from Andy.  Carter managed not to break down, but they were very firm swats, and the young man was yelping hard and loud by the time the last two landed.

This situation seems very similar to the one in A School Paddling Surprise where you described paddling Ben.  In that story Mrs. Rowe offered to delegate, but you turned down her offer and it appears Ben didn't mind.
Posted by: Jack
« on: October 14, 2018, 04:07:03 am »

Quote from: db105 on October 13, 2018, 06:26:49 pm
Quote from: Jack on October 13, 2018, 05:35:57 pm
It's interesting to me that you actually point out that this is a school where parents are called for, and sometimes actually handle, the discipline, yet ask about teacher's having to delegate. 

Well, touché, but what I would find a bit unfair is if Carter was held to a different standard than the rest of the students because his brother is a teacher. Not saying that's the case, just wondering.

On the one hand, I think that's always going to be true.  I think that if you are a teacher and work with a kid's parents, it's natural to have a word with those parents if the kid is giving you problems, even if it doesn't rise to the level where you would go out of your way to contact parents.  On the other hand, even though it wasn't Carter (as far as we know) who'd done the previous incidents, I think this was seen as pretty serious because of the ongoing nature of the prank, and because the students had had multiple chances to stop before this happened.  I honestly don't know if a parent would have been contacted if it was another student, but I know that I would have given a rather serious paddling if I'd been handling this issue, even if the boy would have probably kept his underpants up for it, just so I didn't have to contact the parents and wait.

Quote from: jackson on October 13, 2018, 06:13:36 pm
Did Andy give Carter a lecture before he administered the paddling?

Carter received a pretty standard lecture/explanation for why he was going to be paddled, but I think it was more a teacher explaining than a parent lecturing.
Posted by: db105
« on: October 13, 2018, 06:26:49 pm »

Quote from: jackson on October 13, 2018, 06:13:36 pm
How old is Carter?

He's 18. See the first post in this thread.

Quote from: Jack on October 13, 2018, 05:35:57 pm
It's interesting to me that you actually point out that this is a school where parents are called for, and sometimes actually handle, the discipline, yet ask about teacher's having to delegate. 

Well, touché, but what I would find a bit unfair is if Carter was held to a different standard than the rest of the students because his brother is a teacher. Not saying that's the case, just wondering.
Posted by: jackson
« on: October 13, 2018, 06:13:36 pm »

How old is Carter?

Did Andy give Carter a lecture before he administered the paddling?
Posted by: Jack
« on: October 13, 2018, 05:35:57 pm »

Quote from: db105 on October 13, 2018, 08:56:01 am
What caught my attention was not the number of swats, but the fact they were bare. I understand that it was a deliberate indiscipline, but I thought bare was reserved for offenses serious enough to call the parents. Was this one so bad? Another thing I'm curious about: given that Andy is Carter's eldest brother, isn't there a policy that when the student in trouble is a relative of the teacher it's better to delegate on someone else, to make sure the student is treated in an objective manner (i.e. not more leniently and also not more harshly).

It's interesting to me that you actually point out that this is a school where parents are called for, and sometimes actually handle, the discipline, yet ask about teacher's having to delegate. 

I think the problem with this is that it was multiple offenses, committed AFTER a warning had been issued, which is why it was seen as being very serious.  However, I also assume that Andy has a much better idea of Carter's discipline record than I do.